Yes this is another post about Melanie’s Marvelous Measles. This time it’s courtesy of Judy Wilyman and Bronwyn Hancock.
Judy Wilyman is a PhD student at the University of Wollongong, under the tutelage of Professor Brian “Dissent the dissenters” Martin. She was a former science teacher, has a Masters degree in something and is doing a PhD in public vaccination policy… maybe, although her time tends to be focused on writing incoherent ramblings on her website, where she mainly discusses the semantics of calling Gardasil a cervical cancer vaccine versus an HPV vaccine. She’s clueless.
Bronwyn Hancock was once a member of the AVN before Meryl Dorey unsuccessfully tried to sue her, in a case that the magistrate referred to as
a most unfortunate case. It should never have been brought. There has been no loss established.
Zing. You may also remember Bronwyn from that ill fated 60 Minutes segment, where her idol the batcrap crazy Viera Scheibner turned on her during the segment on vaccines and said
Don’t answer things that you don’t know enough about, OK – don’t answer them. You were drowning. So let’s call a spade a spade.
To start with Judy…
I can only assume that Judy has not read the book, because that’s not what it is about at all. See my previous review – but the book is about Tina’s stupid mother deciding to take Tina to a play date at Melanie’s so she can contract measles, and details Tina’s mother indoctrinating her with a whole bunch of crap regarding the severity of measles.
There was a time in Australia’s history when parents did try and deliberately infect their children with diseases – it was a time before vaccination. That much is correct, as it *was* often considered better to get certain diseases like measles and chickenpox as children, as opposed to adolescents and adults. Vaccines removed the need for people to deliberately infect their children.
Interestingly, the history of pox parties is a bit more gross…
I’ll answer these questions for you, Judy. Given you are a PhD level student I would have thought you could find this information yourself, rather than being spoon fed.
1. Measles was controlled by widespread vaccination.
I’m not sure what government documents Judy has, but the evidence here is pretty clear. After the introduction of a single measles vaccine in 1968, death rates dropped by half. Hospitalisation from measles dropped significantly. A severe outbreak in 1993 saw 9000 notifications, but after the introduction of a second measles vaccine to the schedule, rates plummeted to only 10 cases by 2005. The fact is, we had almost completely eradicated measles.
Data from here, here and here.
2. Complications don’t even happen that much! Well they do. And they happen at a rate far higher than from any side effect from the vaccine. The public needs to know! Well the public can, from here. It’s quite comprehensive, I learned that:
Measles is often a severe disease, frequently complicated by otitis media (in ~9%), pneumonia (in ~6%) and diarrhoea (in ~8%).1,2 Acute encephalitis occurs in 1 per 1000 cases, and has a mortality rate of 10 to 15%, with 15 to 40% of survivors suffering permanent brain damage.3 Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) is a late complication of measles, occurring on average 7 years after infection in approximately 0.5 to 1 per 100 000 measles cases.2SSPE causes progressive brain damage and is always fatal. Complications from measles are more common and more severe in the chronically ill, in children <5 years of age, and in adults.1 Approximately 60% of deaths from measles are attributed to pneumonia, especially in the young, while complications from encephalitis are more frequently seen in adults.1,2 Measles infection during pregnancy can result in miscarriage and premature delivery but has not been associated with congenital malformation.1
SO! 9% get otitis media, 6% will get pneumonia, diarrhoea in 8%. Encephalitis occurs in 1:1000 cases, SSPE occurs at 0.5 – 1:100,000 cases. Of those that get encephalitis, up to 15% will die, and up to 40% will suffer irreversible brain damage. 60% of all deaths are due to those 6% of pneumonia cases. There is your information, Judy. Compared with the rates of vaccine side effects which stand at:
- Fever in 5 – 15%
- Febrile seizures is approximately 1 case per 3000
- Anaphylaxis (less than 1 in 1 million doses distributed)
- It is uncertain whether encephalopathy occurs following vaccination, if it does it occurs 1000 times less frequent than from measles itself
- Thrombocytopenia (usually self-limiting) has been very rarely associated with the rubella or measles component of MMR occurring in 3 to 5 per 100 000 doses of MMR vaccine administered. This is considerably less than the diseases themselves
- Autism is not a side effect of vaccination.
3) Steven Hambleton has not provided any evidence that “it is far more dangerous to actually experience the disease (measles)” than it is to be vaccinated.
Well, I just did that.
Yes, put Melanie’s Marvelous Measles in schools. Put it right next to “I can jump puddles”.
I’ve just spent my Saturday night reading every Year Book since 1945. Guess what, measles was not removed as a “notifiable” disease. It was removed from the Year Books on the recommendation of the National Health and Medical Research Council and it states
the table does not include all diseases which are notifiable in each State and Territory
The fact that we can still find data from 1950 onward regarding measles data confirms that the disease was never removed as a notifiable disease. It was just not listed in the Australian Year Book. Measles was still a concern. If it were not a concern, they would not list in the Year Books the number of people entering Australia with confirmed cases of measles.
I think you will find he is Sir Gustav Nossal. The public getting their information from the media is precisely why we’re in the predicament we’re in. The public need to be getting their information from the government, which has made information on side effects and their rates readily available.
Secondly her assertion that the Vaccine Injury Compensation Scheme is proof that vaccines are dangerous is inherently flawed. Nobody has ever suggested that vaccines are 100% safe, and if a person is genuinely injured by vaccines it is only fair that they are compensated. This is because vaccination is in the best interests of the community, and is based on government policy. Thus, a no fault compensation scheme was established in America, out of concerns that if pharmaceutical companies were to be sued, they would stop manufacturing vaccines. It is not proof that vaccine damage is as widespread as Judy and the AVN would like to claim, not does it support the thoroughly debunked claim that vaccines cause autism.